Excuse me for writing in English. I have been told that in Hohenheim Stuttgart there is the Jägerallee mit 200 jahr alten Italienische Populieren (Pyramidenpappeln) I have studied the photos and compared them with the Eigenschaften, like habitus, bark (Borke), Brettwurzeln, and I doubt the trees are Populus nigra Italica. How can I find an adress in germany to look at this problem
Joost Gieskes
Hohenheim Stuttgart Jägerallee ---> Populus x canadensis
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Hi Joost,
ok, but unfortunately streetview doesn't work beside of public area. I tried to check the "Schlosspark" but I cannot see any Populus nigra "Italica". I guess the pics are not good enough and from the view of an helicopter it is very difficult.
Maybe it would be a good idea to contact the university. Or do you have pictures of these trees?
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Frank
ok, but unfortunately streetview doesn't work beside of public area. I tried to check the "Schlosspark" but I cannot see any Populus nigra "Italica". I guess the pics are not good enough and from the view of an helicopter it is very difficult.
Maybe it would be a good idea to contact the university. Or do you have pictures of these trees?
Best regards
Frank
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hohenheim pappeln
Dear Frank, (and Biloba?),Oh yes I have very good photos but unfortunately I have not yet found out how to put them on this Forum. I tried but no, I better ask Chris Gurk again . Point is, there is a picture of 1801 where you can clearly see that in the Schlosspark (Jägerallee) there is al ong row of Italian poplars (Populus nigra 'Italica'). These trees have been cut down to kopfweiden form, and the university still claims they are the same. Well, poplars of 1801 is vry seldom!! Yet, when I study the photographs and see not those steep branches, and I see not the well known buttress roots (in german Brettwürzeln), so a quite normal stem like the Populus canadensis, I start to have serious doubts whether thes trees are Pyramidenpappeln ( in English Lombard Poplars. This the reason that I put my question to your organisation. It is pure scientific curiosity of me!! I ask Chris again about how to load down photographs. Hopefully Chris will read this message
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Hi Joost,
uploading pics is not very difficult.
At first you should modify the size of the photos on your computer.
The common size for this forum is 640 x 480 px (not more than 640 for the longer side).
Below of the text area you find Auswählen ...
Click on this button and search your pic on your PC. Click on the
file and ready. If you want to show more than 1 photo, you click on
Attachment hinzufügen, wait 2 or 3 seconds and then you can repeat this for the next photo ... Auswählen... --- Attachment hinzufügen --- and so on.
Of course at last ---> Absenden.
Best regards
Frank
uploading pics is not very difficult.
At first you should modify the size of the photos on your computer.
The common size for this forum is 640 x 480 px (not more than 640 for the longer side).
Below of the text area you find Auswählen ...
Click on this button and search your pic on your PC. Click on the
file and ready. If you want to show more than 1 photo, you click on
Attachment hinzufügen, wait 2 or 3 seconds and then you can repeat this for the next photo ... Auswählen... --- Attachment hinzufügen --- and so on.
Of course at last ---> Absenden.
Best regards
Frank
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Hello Frank, here follow pictures if I succeed. You will see the trees of Hohenheim and pictures typical for the Italian poplar with the Brettwürzeln and the thick knobs on the trunk. The trunks and the canopy of the trees in Hohenheim do not look like Italian poplars, but I may be mistaken.....Is there annybody of your organisation who can check this? One picture is of 1801!!!
Best regards, Joost
Frank I get the impression that I can send only one.......
Best regards, Joost
Frank I get the impression that I can send only one.......
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Hi Joost,
thanks for the photos. These trees do not look like Populus nigra "Italica". But I don't know what happens if you cut such a tree. Maybe it will get another appearance.
The only way to solve this question would be a genetic analysys (but it is very expensive). Did you ask the university?
Best regards
Frank
thanks for the photos. These trees do not look like Populus nigra "Italica". But I don't know what happens if you cut such a tree. Maybe it will get another appearance.
The only way to solve this question would be a genetic analysys (but it is very expensive). Did you ask the university?
Best regards
Frank
Hallo,
ich habe ein bisschen nachgelesen.
Pyramidenpappeln ('Italica') sollen eine sehr kurze Lebensspanne haben (40 Jahre), vor allem in feuchteren Klimaten (also Deutschland u.Mitteleuropa)
Hier steht, es gibt noch ähnlich schlanke Kultivare/ Klone etc.
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pyramidenpappel
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Populus_nigra
Es könnte sich vielleicht im Populus nigra ''Afghanica' (syn. 'Thevestina') handeln, die sollen säulenförmige Stämme ohne Brettwurzeln haben, keine Verzweigung/ Stammaustrieb so weit unten und im Vergleich sehr helle Rinde haben.
Es soll sich dabei um weibliche Bäume handeln, überwiegend in SO-Europa angepflanzt seit dem Osmanischen Reich (also früh).
Hier geht es auch in etwa um dieses Thema, verlinkt sind Beispielbilder von typischen Stämmen.
http://forums2.gardenweb.com/forums/loa ... 16414.html
ich habe ein bisschen nachgelesen.
Pyramidenpappeln ('Italica') sollen eine sehr kurze Lebensspanne haben (40 Jahre), vor allem in feuchteren Klimaten (also Deutschland u.Mitteleuropa)
Hier steht, es gibt noch ähnlich schlanke Kultivare/ Klone etc.
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pyramidenpappel
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Populus_nigra
Es könnte sich vielleicht im Populus nigra ''Afghanica' (syn. 'Thevestina') handeln, die sollen säulenförmige Stämme ohne Brettwurzeln haben, keine Verzweigung/ Stammaustrieb so weit unten und im Vergleich sehr helle Rinde haben.
Es soll sich dabei um weibliche Bäume handeln, überwiegend in SO-Europa angepflanzt seit dem Osmanischen Reich (also früh).
Hier geht es auch in etwa um dieses Thema, verlinkt sind Beispielbilder von typischen Stämmen.
http://forums2.gardenweb.com/forums/loa ... 16414.html
Viele Grüße von bee
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