Guten Abend,
vielleicht schaut, wer die Zeitschrift hat, ihr in der Gartenpraxis 10/2001 nach. Dort hat Bärtels die Gattung mit einenem Artiekl gewürdigt.
Gruß, Bernd
Wochenendrätsel 77
Moderatoren: LCV, stefan, tormi
Hallo tormi
Mich hat das 2. Bild mit dem Laubblatt irritiert, weil es so deutlich gelappt ist. Darauf würde meines Erachtens N. affinis besser passen.
Schlussendlich habe ich mich dann durch die Kelchblattlänge auf dem 1. Bild leiten lassen:
N. affinis Kelchblätter sind etwa gleich lang wie Kelchröhre
N. thibetica Kelchblätter halb so lang wie Kelchröhre
Gruss Rolf
Mich hat das 2. Bild mit dem Laubblatt irritiert, weil es so deutlich gelappt ist. Darauf würde meines Erachtens N. affinis besser passen.
Schlussendlich habe ich mich dann durch die Kelchblattlänge auf dem 1. Bild leiten lassen:
N. affinis Kelchblätter sind etwa gleich lang wie Kelchröhre
N. thibetica Kelchblätter halb so lang wie Kelchröhre
Gruss Rolf
Tom,
I think Rolf, Roseo-Marginata and others are right.
This is a difficult genus, in fact we need more details.
I did not use R/B but FOC.
And because I do not have Neillia affinis in my herbarium, I did not pay much attention to it.
R/B does not present every detail for each taxon, that is a problem.
One can not see how much flowers per inflorescence there are for every taxon etc. So we need to trust the key, but it is difficult to see if the shoot is hairy or glabrous.
As Rolf says: the sepals are as long as the hypanthium, and that is a very good distinguishing point.
Perhaps also the inflorescence is in fact to short to be Neillia thibetica.
The leaves although are less lobed (except some, like these on the more detailed picture) than R/B presents.
So after all, I feel more for Neillia affinis.
So far that I can trust on the details I see...
This kind of doubting is very useful
I think Rolf, Roseo-Marginata and others are right.
This is a difficult genus, in fact we need more details.
I did not use R/B but FOC.
And because I do not have Neillia affinis in my herbarium, I did not pay much attention to it.
R/B does not present every detail for each taxon, that is a problem.
One can not see how much flowers per inflorescence there are for every taxon etc. So we need to trust the key, but it is difficult to see if the shoot is hairy or glabrous.
As Rolf says: the sepals are as long as the hypanthium, and that is a very good distinguishing point.
Perhaps also the inflorescence is in fact to short to be Neillia thibetica.
The leaves although are less lobed (except some, like these on the more detailed picture) than R/B presents.
So after all, I feel more for Neillia affinis.
So far that I can trust on the details I see...
This kind of doubting is very useful